The time period we are talking about in WC II right now is referred to as the renaissance, do you think it could be argued that s another renaissance has happened in the last 200 years or did it ever end?
The Renaissance was when people began to explore knowledge and art for their own pleasures and desires. I think for the most part, the Renaissance never really ended. People continue to explore and make discoveries based on their own interests. There is a greater sense of individualism. We live in an era where it is encouraged to follow your own dreams/desires and not care what others have to say. We continue to grow technologically and medically; we still study the ancient classical works of literature and art. We build off the knowledge from the Renaissance.
Looking at the initial meaning of the word renaissance, it means rebirth or revival. Therefore, I believe that it would be impossible to say that the Renaissance has been going on all this time. It is true that a person's goals may reflect that of a member of the Renaissance in that they act based on their interests, but the sense of rediscovery is gone. What is being explored now is uncharted waters. The curiosity is the same, but the discoveries themselves are quite different. All in all this era requires a different title.
I say that the renaissance never really ended. The renaissance was a time of awakening focusing on reason over faith. As the years have gone by the world has focused more on logic, unlocking the secrets of countless technologies and art. The world is constantly going through "rebirth", with no specific time placement. So it is fair to say that the renaissance was not the bridge from feudal to mercantile, it is the series of rapid changes starting after the medieval era.
I believe that the Renaissance never ended, because the definition can also mean "any similar revival of art or literature." and with that, ever since the original Renaissance, art and literature have really never stopped being revived. What I mean is that even in modern day, we are restoring and reviving old art and literature and creating a better understanding for them to people now. Even hundreds of years ago, people have been searching for old art and literature and finding out how to inquire them into society and make people understand the history and meaning behind them. Sometimes reviving all this is someones job. So in my mind, i believe the Renaissance never stopped and has continued into modern day society.
I agree with Derian and Tyler. There are historians and archeologists who make a living by rediscovering things from the past. Ancient cultures and civilizations are constantly being unearthed and rediscovered. Last year, in WC I, we learned that Gilgamesh was the first book of cuneiform inscriptions of Western Asia. This rediscovery shows that civilization is a lot older than expected and everything that was said before had to be re-questioned. The discovery of Gilgamesh occurred in the mid-1800s; this shows that the Renaissance never really ended. The world is constantly going through rebirth and rediscovery.
I mainly agree with Paige but kind of agree with everyone else too. I believe that there is a word renaissance that means rebirth and may still be going on; however, THE Renaissance was the initial rebirth during the 1400-1600s and I believe that did end. Before the Renaissance people had never really looked back to the Classics. Thus, the Renaissance is the first revival of ancient Greek and Roman culture. I think that once the Renaissance started and became powerful people considered the rediscovery normal and became interested in it. I agree that the rediscovery of ancient history is still going on now, but that does not mean that we are still in the Renaissance. Basically, we are still discovering history nowadays because of people in the Renaissance. The Renaissance was the initial rebirth and then it ended. Plus, the Renaissance was characterized by many other things as well not just looking back to the Classics.
To add on to what Caroline said, I think to say that the Renaissance has been going on all this time all over the world and that it has never ended is a huge generalization. During the so called "Dark Ages" of Europe, China was a major center of learning and discovery. They didn't undergo a rebirth, a Renaissance, at the same time because they didn't have to. And if you argue that the only place we are addressing is Europe, then look at either of the World Wars. They weren't necessarily remembered by their rebirth or revival aspects. They are not what I consider in keeping with the characteristics of the Renaissance. The Renaissance ended long ago in my opinion.
To answer the original question in short, I do not think there was another Renaissance and it did end. I think we have/are experienced(ing)and era similar to that of the Renaissance because of various change. I look at the 1800s as a time to indicate change. Clothing changed greatly during this time as well as music and instruments (guitar's popularity and out-phasing of older strummed instruments. More importantly, the INDUSTRIAL REVOLUTION occurred. I put that in capitals because it can be argued when the Renaissance ended, but for sure, this event is a definite separation of the Renaissance and the next era. I wish I was more learned in this area and I could give more information on this, but that is what I think. -Nick
I strongly agree with Paige. I believe that the Renaissance greatly changed developed the western-world and that we are still affected by it today. However, I also believe that the Renaissance was a relatively specific time period (1400-1600)during which antiquity, individualism, and humanism emerged in Europe. I believe it is false to say that the Renaissance never ended. It most definitely shaped the time periods and cultures that followed it, but it refers to a specific time in European history in which certain groups of people gradually shifted to a more "modern" world view. I agree with what Paige said about the different cultures surrounding Europe at the time. China and Muslim empires thrived during the middle ages. They did not need to undergo a "rebirth" while the Renaissance was occurring in Europe. History is not one straight line of progress. The Renaissance has not continued and spread at an even rate worldwide. Even during the Renaissance period, there were many leaps of progress and step-backs. Savonarola's 'Bonfire of the Vanities' could be seen as a step-back in terms of the progress of the Renaissance. Also, every culture experiences ups and downs at different times. It also depends on your personal view of progress.
The Renaissance was a very unique period in European history that consisted of novel discoveries, learning, and the development of intellectual curiosity. All types of learning and new discoveries occur today, but I believe these discoveries should not be connected to a very unique period in European history. The Renaissaince was more than just learning, it was also about individualism, humanism, and art which created a new beginning for Europe. I agree with Emily and Paige when they discuss that in other parts of the world, a "rebith" may have not been necessary. I also believe that one should not confuse a period of learning and new discoveries with all of the learning and discoveries in human nature.
After some reconsideration, I too think that the Renaissance, specifically in Italy has ended, but we still are influenced by the Renaissance and the discoveries made during the Renaissance. I think similarly to the Renaissance, we are constantly discovering something new and rediscovering things from the past, but on a smaller scale.
The Renaissance was when people began to explore knowledge and art for their own pleasures and desires. I think for the most part, the Renaissance never really ended. People continue to explore and make discoveries based on their own interests. There is a greater sense of individualism.
ReplyDeleteWe live in an era where it is encouraged to follow your own dreams/desires and not care what others have to say. We continue to grow technologically and medically; we still study the ancient classical works of literature and art. We build off the knowledge from the Renaissance.
Looking at the initial meaning of the word renaissance, it means rebirth or revival. Therefore, I believe that it would be impossible to say that the Renaissance has been going on all this time. It is true that a person's goals may reflect that of a member of the Renaissance in that they act based on their interests, but the sense of rediscovery is gone. What is being explored now is uncharted waters. The curiosity is the same, but the discoveries themselves are quite different. All in all this era requires a different title.
ReplyDeleteI say that the renaissance never really ended. The renaissance was a time of awakening focusing on reason over faith. As the years have gone by the world has focused more on logic, unlocking the secrets of countless technologies and art. The world is constantly going through "rebirth", with no specific time placement. So it is fair to say that the renaissance was not the bridge from feudal to mercantile, it is the series of rapid changes starting after the medieval era.
ReplyDeleteI believe that the Renaissance never ended, because the definition can also mean "any similar revival of art or literature." and with that, ever since the original Renaissance, art and literature have really never stopped being revived. What I mean is that even in modern day, we are restoring and reviving old art and literature and creating a better understanding for them to people now. Even hundreds of years ago, people have been searching for old art and literature and finding out how to inquire them into society and make people understand the history and meaning behind them. Sometimes reviving all this is someones job. So in my mind, i believe the Renaissance never stopped and has continued into modern day society.
ReplyDeleteI agree with Derian and Tyler. There are historians and archeologists who make a living by rediscovering things from the past. Ancient cultures and civilizations are constantly being unearthed and rediscovered. Last year, in WC I, we learned that Gilgamesh was the first book of cuneiform inscriptions of Western Asia. This rediscovery shows that civilization is a lot older than expected and everything that was said before had to be re-questioned. The discovery of Gilgamesh occurred in the mid-1800s; this shows that the Renaissance never really ended. The world is constantly going through rebirth and rediscovery.
ReplyDeleteI mainly agree with Paige but kind of agree with everyone else too. I believe that there is a word renaissance that means rebirth and may still be going on; however, THE Renaissance was the initial rebirth during the 1400-1600s and I believe that did end. Before the Renaissance people had never really looked back to the Classics. Thus, the Renaissance is the first revival of ancient Greek and Roman culture. I think that once the Renaissance started and became powerful people considered the rediscovery normal and became interested in it. I agree that the rediscovery of ancient history is still going on now, but that does not mean that we are still in the Renaissance. Basically, we are still discovering history nowadays because of people in the Renaissance. The Renaissance was the initial rebirth and then it ended. Plus, the Renaissance was characterized by many other things as well not just looking back to the Classics.
ReplyDeleteTo add on to what Caroline said, I think to say that the Renaissance has been going on all this time all over the world and that it has never ended is a huge generalization. During the so called "Dark Ages" of Europe, China was a major center of learning and discovery. They didn't undergo a rebirth, a Renaissance, at the same time because they didn't have to. And if you argue that the only place we are addressing is Europe, then look at either of the World Wars. They weren't necessarily remembered by their rebirth or revival aspects. They are not what I consider in keeping with the characteristics of the Renaissance. The Renaissance ended long ago in my opinion.
ReplyDeleteTo answer the original question in short, I do not think there was another Renaissance and it did end. I think we have/are experienced(ing)and era similar to that of the Renaissance because of various change. I look at the 1800s as a time to indicate change. Clothing changed greatly during this time as well as music and instruments (guitar's popularity and out-phasing of older strummed instruments. More importantly, the INDUSTRIAL REVOLUTION occurred. I put that in capitals because it can be argued when the Renaissance ended, but for sure, this event is a definite separation of the Renaissance and the next era. I wish I was more learned in this area and I could give more information on this, but that is what I think. -Nick
ReplyDeleteI strongly agree with Paige. I believe that the Renaissance greatly changed developed the western-world and that we are still affected by it today. However, I also believe that the Renaissance was a relatively specific time period (1400-1600)during which antiquity, individualism, and humanism emerged in Europe. I believe it is false to say that the Renaissance never ended. It most definitely shaped the time periods and cultures that followed it, but it refers to a specific time in European history in which certain groups of people gradually shifted to a more "modern" world view. I agree with what Paige said about the different cultures surrounding Europe at the time. China and Muslim empires thrived during the middle ages. They did not need to undergo a "rebirth" while the Renaissance was occurring in Europe. History is not one straight line of progress. The Renaissance has not continued and spread at an even rate worldwide. Even during the Renaissance period, there were many leaps of progress and step-backs. Savonarola's 'Bonfire of the Vanities' could be seen as a step-back in terms of the progress of the Renaissance. Also, every culture experiences ups and downs at different times. It also depends on your personal view of progress.
ReplyDeleteThe Renaissance was a very unique period in European history that consisted of novel discoveries, learning, and the development of intellectual curiosity. All types of learning and new discoveries occur today, but I believe these discoveries should not be connected to a very unique period in European history. The Renaissaince was more than just learning, it was also about individualism, humanism, and art which created a new beginning for Europe. I agree with Emily and Paige when they discuss that in other parts of the world, a "rebith" may have not been necessary. I also believe that one should not confuse a period of learning and new discoveries with all of the learning and discoveries in human nature.
ReplyDeleteAfter some reconsideration, I too think that the Renaissance, specifically in Italy has ended, but we still are influenced by the Renaissance and the discoveries made during the Renaissance. I think similarly to the Renaissance, we are constantly discovering something new and rediscovering things from the past, but on a smaller scale.
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